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Friday, January 21st, 2011
9:41 pm
[saltnester]
What's going on?
All right, so I was waiting for some show of life from our designer, but cheery_idiot is correct, it's been more than long enough. Here's what's been going on with the project:

- January 2010: domain got, project predicted to go live (at least for test users) in June.

- July 2010: designer apologises for being slow, having real life health/moving issues

- August 2010: Site about to go live! ...only apparently the host server had a rogue script running that reversed permissions and destroyed data on all incoming uploads and downloads to the server. Local workspace folders were damaged as well. After some 'phoning around and shouting at people, data recovery attempts were made, but to little result.

- September 2010: Start over. Domain renewed. To prevent the uncertainty which occured in the April-July period, the designer commits to making an update post in the committee forum at least once a fortnight, if not every week.

- November 2010: Designer vanishes off the face of the planet. Hopefully it's due to public holidays rather than being hit by a bus, but that's where we're at.

Current Mood: irritated
Sunday, November 22nd, 2009
7:39 pm
[saltnester]
Took a while...
Forgotten Ground, a website built by fantasy/sf writers, for fantasy/sf writers (and illustrators), is now officially (as opposed to merely technically) under construction.

I'm not going to give y'all a date because...projects are like that, and if you don't know you can't gloom that it's late, but I am pleased to report that we are on schedule shedule sched plan, and things are looking promising.
Bookmark the page and come back in spring.

Current Mood: busy
Friday, May 29th, 2009
8:10 pm
[saltnester]
So.
Still some mysteries in the planning, but I'm going to throw this out here: I think a monthly roundup on progress with alternate sites would be useful/heartening to all of us. Any volunteers to do this for their own project? I'll do my best to chase people otherwise, if the majority agree this is a good idea.
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009
7:55 am
[saltnester]
mod post: construction round-up
All right, so people are saying we're a bit dispersed...here are the projects I know of:

- ladylight's temporary forum (NB not a 'site in itself)

- 'main' plan, outlined by psychodrake and indan
- potential private project via liari (now amalgamated with the below)
- catach_amadan's 'site project (stable, steady and drawing off ideas from the shanty)

...I've heard rumours of two other projects somewhere: whilst I understand that more private work is more likely to get things done than a communist approach over time zones, I think everyone would appreciate knowing what's going on (and what format it's in) so we all end up working semi-together in parallel rather than in competition. I approve of any project with stability, but the only way we're going to avoid schisim is to be open and communicate.


Suggestions, technical or otherwise, for eventual integration should be left here.

Current Mood: busy
Sunday, March 29th, 2009
2:19 pm
[ladylight]
Alternatives to Elfwood, revisited
As everyone except the die-hardiest diehards seem to have left Elfwood since the last changes, and as the gallant volunteers for site redesign have been mauled by the RL beast for now, is anyone in favour of getting a temporary home set up somewhere for the time being?

Personally, I would recommend phpBB as a starting point (at least for the interim) while a whole site is yet to be geared up and running. phpBB is an open source project, supported by a strong community userbase. It's extremely user-friendly - doesn't take too long to set up the basics (my friends say ;P) and it's very popular, so it's not in any danger of sudden disappearance. Customised modifications are completely permissible, and often spectacular when you find someone who knows what they're doing. I've been part of several boards using this system which were easy to browse, easy to maintain and extremely stable.

Here, browse some examples of the layout. (use the Select Style drop-down box) Title bars and images can be changed easily with this kit if one uses the subsilver layout, or a little more complicated-ly with the other layouts. I rather like the DarkFantasy one ...

The manifesto/licence is here and a vague indication of the add-ons available is here.

You can control user groups, which groups have access to which forums, which forums are viewable to all the public and which are only viewable to members, who is allowed to post in forums or just view forums, etc. You can organise subforums. You can do, in other words, Stuff.


Absolutely none of this is to suggest that I don't think people shouldn't build their own site. A bulletin board won't cure all our ills - for a start, people will probably have to do something like create their own profile pages in some sort of Profile forum, and manually link to each new story or picture they add, which is a bit fussy. It's just that I think a fully redesigned site will take a great deal of time, and a consolidated community would probably help the process along anyway.

I have no hardware to volunteer in the way of setting up a server, but I'd be happy to pay up to $40 per month to cover hosting costs.

Any thoughts/violent disagreements?

Random Forum/Subforum Layout Brainstorm - help?Collapse )

Current Mood: thoughtful
Friday, March 27th, 2009
5:04 pm
[saltnester]
Well, it's almost funny.
...just go look at elfwood, if you haven't in a while. When you've run away screaming, could we please make it a rule in any site any of y'all come up with not to turn into Facebook overnight.

(cheery_idiot I know I promised, but may I leave now? The story section's not even readable.)

Current Mood: not surprised enough for anger
Friday, January 9th, 2009
8:10 pm
[psychodrake]
A'cause I'm inspired and happy that things are now happening again, what do you guys want the site to look like, visual-wise? Input, ideas, and such. Mostly about the graphics, colour choices, styles, and such, things like layout I want to wait a bit longer to start planning, until things are serious and we have a structure and such.

Current Mood: has a cold
Tuesday, January 6th, 2009
9:50 am
[liari]
Anyone interested?
I know the guys are busy, and I understand, but like everyone else I'm going crazy without a writing community to call home. So, I've asked a programmer friend of mine if she'd be willing to be commissioned for a site, and she said yes. We're currently hashing out details and seeing what the cost would come out to. What I want to know is this:

1. What exactly you want from the site.

2. What everyone can contribute (not neccesarily money; artwork is needed at this point, and mods I'm sure will be needed and I myself am not entirely certain about exactly what else, but let me know!).

3. Names for the site; I'll buy the domain name and server space, but I kinda need a name before I can do so... I've got Free Form and Amunthoth so far; tell me your ideas! (I like the sound of freeform.net or something.)

4. What does everyone think of this idea period? Are you interested in coming over to this site once I/we get it up?

Hope to hear from everyone, and maybe get back a little of what we lost when Elfwood went south.

~Liari

Current Mood: hopeful
Friday, August 22nd, 2008
9:37 pm
[psychodrake]
So, I don't know what happened to Indan or why things stopped happening. Anyone heard anything?
In any case, being back in school, my free time is pretty much over until next May, with the possible exception of Christmas. DB's in much the same state, I have heard. So I think if we are to have our own site it will not be online soon, with two programmers being eaten and one MIA. Any of the more discontent disowned have a direction they're heading for the moment? I'm considering dA, but I'd rather not do that. Even on a generally sucky site perhaps we can set up a bubble of decent critique and good writing.


Edit:Things happen once more. Here!

Current Mood: disappointed
Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008
1:35 pm
[saltnester]
One step back...
It seems that the glitch that means comments get eaten in Internet Exploder has now been carried over to firefox: if someone gives a decent length comment, the author can only write a couple of lines in reply. [facedesk] Whilst this doesn't result in the complete destruction of comments as it does in IE, the complete destruction of replies is more than awkward...anyone know why this has happened, or are the developers just running amok in streamlining things for the main userbase again?

Current Mood: mildly irritated even now
Monday, June 16th, 2008
8:45 pm
[psychodrake]
Organization
UPDATED 06.18.'08 because I got wacky-confused on what Indan was saying...
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Indan and I got onto the topic of organization in the last post, so here is the breakdown separately so people can easily read and comment on bits and pieces of it, subject to corrections if need be, because I'm hammering out a few vaguer details we didn't talk about directly as I go, and as I was a member of the discussion it may be a bit biased to my view anyway... I'm trying not to be.

These are all ideas wanting input, and are all so far from 'set in stone' that one can't even properly call them propositions, so rip and tear away, folks.
It is Long. With a Capital L.Collapse )
There, I think that about covers it... O..O three pages in Word. Okay, this is going behind a cut. And when we decide on the rules/guidelines/such, I would be happy to write the massive lengthy rambly version that everyone can fuss over the details of before condensing it into something a human could actually read...

LATER:
Indan's description, considerably shorter and less complexCollapse )

Current Mood: accomplished
Thursday, June 12th, 2008
11:15 pm
[indan]
New writers' website
What:

We're going to build a dedicated website for writers.

Other things than stories like art, photos or even blog-like things can be hosted as well, but the focus is on hosting fiction well.

Why:

Because we want something better for writers than Elfwood, Livejournal or other existing sites. Something that feels like a home, which you own and have control over, built specifically for your needs. A neat nice place with no artificial restrictions, advertisement or censorship, among other things. Hopefully it will gather some of the people that left Elfwood in one place.

When:

Development will start soon, but before we start making it we need to know what to make. So tell us what you want and share your ideas. This is very important, because what existing software we're going to use and the software design depend on this. Without you there won't be a website, or it will fail because we're wasting time on doing the wrong things. You don't need to be able to program or anything, wanting to use such site is enough.

Where:

EDIT: We'll keep the discussion here at this post and on elfwood_shanty for now.

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To not clutter elfwood_shanty I'll create a new LJ community for it. Anyone got a good name? Max 15 characters *grumble*. Having a name, even a temporary one, would make it easier to talk about it. If no one comes with something decent I'll create one named newritersite, muchwords or gobblybits. Discussion about the new website should be moved there, to have everything website related in one place. From there we can move to a mailing list or whatever if we want, and later to the website itself.

I'll hunt down and read our previous discussions and write a summary of how the site may more or less become, especially its philosophy.

Feel free to ask any questions or add a comment. This is hopefully the last entry about the website posted on elfwood_shanty.
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Friday, June 6th, 2008
9:54 pm
[psychodrake]
Oh, User-base, where are you?
Official (well, kinda) all-call for people interested in a new writing-dedicated website. If you'd be there, post here, so we can get an idea as to the success chances of such an endeavor.
Also feel free to mention if you'd be willing and able to contribute (only time at this point, don't worry) to the finer details of the construction process and what area you'd like to help out in. Don't bother with input on content, though, we're nowhere near that point, and when it comes every potential user will be encouraged to write pages about what they want from the site.

This will be open for a while.

Current Mood: hopeful
Thursday, May 29th, 2008
4:05 pm
[psychodrake]
Heyup
Hey, folks, just popping in to advertise two things:
1. I am now on holidays and thus will have obscene amounts of free time (barring a vacation or three) from now until mid-August.
2. I have completed my programming class and now have a comfortable knowledge of both the C++ and Python environments. I wouldn't say I was a right genius, it was only an intro class, but it was formal instruction for the win.

Deebee. *waves* Indan, how's your move/stress/life?

Current Mood: chipper
Saturday, March 22nd, 2008
9:43 pm
[copperstitches]
Have no fear! Igor is here!
HAY GHUYZ!!! WHUTZ GOIN ON IN DIZ SHANTY???

*trips over tent* Sorry!

Erm yeah it's been a while, and I can't remember who most of you people are from Elfwood but it's James here; I have returned out of hibernation and ocasionaly getting hit by lighting bolts, and have returned to make sure noone touches the "really inthane brainth jar".

So how's things ladies and gents of Elfwood, and what's the plan for this community? *too lazy to read all the posts*

Current Mood: cheerful
Tuesday, March 18th, 2008
11:13 am
[saltnester]
[points at extranet] The hell?! I'm hoping that they're doing maintenance/applying changes whilst the 'site is actually running, because this is made of madness.

Current Mood: annoyed between lectures
Thursday, March 6th, 2008
9:43 pm
[psychodrake]
Well lookie here...
From the most recent Elfy Herald (which I just got because my email client is doing that thing that computers do: monumentally screwing up, that is).

"7. Upcoming User Survey
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Soon, we will run a new user survey at the Elfwood site to keep track
of who is really visiting us, and what you want with the site. "

*clears throat* Bit late for that, don't you think, Thomas? You yourself said most of the changes have been done, and there's no going back. Still, 's good news, I suppose, for those of you still holding out hope.

Current Mood: cynical
Thursday, February 21st, 2008
9:29 am
[catach_amadan]
GOOD NEWS!!
Oye! Good news on the HTML-in-comments!!

I got a message from Thomas saying he'd used my user account as a test for in-comment colour/HTML stuff...and basically, as far as I can tell, all or my story comments are back to normal (in terms of colour, that is. I haven't checked for italics and suchlike, and I really doubt that I can actively use HTML in comments just yet, but hey: it's progress!). So, yes, work has indeed started on getting HTML control back, and this is Good Thing.

Anyway, wanted to let you all know...

Current Mood: happy
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